{"id":3788,"date":"2016-01-15T08:59:35","date_gmt":"2016-01-15T08:59:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/?post_type=interviews&#038;p=3788\/"},"modified":"2020-02-14T12:32:59","modified_gmt":"2020-02-14T11:32:59","slug":"ella-lukatskaya","status":"publish","type":"interviews","link":"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/intervyu-ru\/ella-lukatskaya\/","title":{"rendered":"\u042d\u043b\u043b\u0430 \u041b\u0443\u043a\u0430\u0446\u043a\u0430"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>\u041a\u0438\u0435\u0432, \u0423\u043a\u0440\u0430\u0438\u043d\u0430<\/em><\/p>\n<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-3788 gallery-columns-6 gallery-size-thumbnail'><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/interviews\/ella-lukatskaya\/trans-history_interviews_lukatskaya\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/trans-history_interviews_Lukatskaya-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-1141\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-1141'>\n\t\t\t\tMy mother Shendel (Sophia) Smertenko. Photo made in 1920s in Kiev. \n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/interviews\/ella-lukatskaya\/trans-history_interviews_lukatskaya2\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/trans-history_interviews_Lukatskaya2-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-1145\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-1145'>\n\t\t\t\tHaya-Ita Smertenko, my grandmother and my mother&#8217;s mother, and I. Photo made in 1938 in Kiev.\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/interviews\/ella-lukatskaya\/trans-history_interviews_lukatskaya3\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/trans-history_interviews_Lukatskaya3-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-1149\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-1149'>\n\t\t\t\tMy father Aizik Lukatskiy perished in Deember 1941. Photo made in 1922 in Kiev. \n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/interviews\/ella-lukatskaya\/trans-history_interviews_lukatskaya4\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/trans-history_interviews_Lukatskaya4-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-1153\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-1153'>\n\t\t\t\tRosalia (Rachel) Smertenko, my aunt,  my mother&#8217;s sister. Photo made in Kiev in 1915.\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/interviews\/ella-lukatskaya\/trans-history_interviews_lukatskaya5\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/trans-history_interviews_Lukatskaya5-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-1157\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-1157'>\n\t\t\t\tMax Smertenko, my Uncle, my mother&#8217;s brother and Ilia, his son, my cousin. Photo made in Kiev in 1910.\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/interviews\/ella-lukatskaya\/trans-history_interviews_lukatskaya6\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/trans-history_interviews_Lukatskaya6-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-1161\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-1161'>\n\t\t\t\tElla Lukatskaya\u2019s cousin Ilia Smertenko. This photos was taken in Waalga (Finland) in 1940.\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/interviews\/ella-lukatskaya\/trans-history_interviews_lukatskaya7\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/trans-history_interviews_Lukatskaya7-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-1165\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-1165'>\n\t\t\t\tIlia (Elchik) Shkolnik, my cousin, the son of Rosa, my mother&#8217;s sister, and Hanna, my cousin. Photo made in Kiev in 1919.\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/interviews\/ella-lukatskaya\/trans-history_interviews_lukatskaya8\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/trans-history_interviews_Lukatskaya8-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/interviews\/ella-lukatskaya\/trans-history_interviews_lukatskaya9\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/trans-history_interviews_Lukatskaya9-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/interviews\/ella-lukatskaya\/trans-history_interviews_lukatskaya10\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/trans-history_interviews_Lukatskaya10-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/ru\/interviews\/ella-lukatskaya\/trans-history_interviews_lukatskaya11\/#main'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/trans-history.centropa.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/trans-history_interviews_Lukatskaya11-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" 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